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Hammerdin - TM or Enigma?

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  1. lucek333

    lucek333 Senior Member

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    Whats better?
    TM or Enigma for hammerdin?
    Over PVP and over PVM.

    Enigma gives 8% dmg reduction, but TM gives +1 more to all paladin stats.
    What u think?
     
  2. Quinneczech

    Quinneczech Fat! Old! HardCORE! Forum Legend

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    enigma all the way... frw, DR, STR!!
     
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  3. Goplexer

    Goplexer Senior Member

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    I think that the enigma is in any case better, like barbarous
     
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    Fatty180 Well-Known Member

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    Hdin always needs enigma cuz when u combine 2 bered perf coa with enigma = ez pvm ultra invincible
    Strength bonus awesome,frw combine with vigor
     
  5. Kenobi

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    Tm and tyreals are usable in the right build but thus far with testing i consider Enigma or coh to be the superior choices for all chars.

    Maybe
    Trapsin with claws could use tm because less str req than spirit monarch. However she would still miss the frw and dr...
    Warcry barb could work if you plan on using double wizy or hotos but again it would miss the frw
    Javazons with tyreals is plausible because allot of your gear gives str already (titans) and you lack res to begin with. Youd be trading allot of str and frw for less str, frw, cannot be frozen and a bit of all res. Seems okay

    post more characters you think tm or tyreals could work on

    Personally that 1 extra skill point wont mean much when you have 10 extra gc slots
     
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  6. MadVisions

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    you want dancer on asn so eni should be better there aswell. As for hdin you want eni couse of the coa str req. Also try reading my stat efficiency guide to auto solve further questions
     
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    Kenobi Active Member

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    literly just reading your guide haha... like i said tms and tyreals is usable just not best in slot
     
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  8. Goplexer

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    Although Mad is right, he really has a verbatim guide, everything is like on the shelves
     
  9. Dean

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    I think that for PVM Tyrael's might is the bset option because of bonus res/stats and slain monster rests in peace + it has 1 socket so you can add whatever you want where as enigma is prob better for pvp but in pvp it always depends on what kind of char and build you face and the skill you posses ;) :D
     
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    Goplexer Senior Member

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    You can break more sockets, the Lazryk will do it, but that does not mean that the skills should be pumped to the maximum, if the force grabs, then the player and the middle level can run with it.
     
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    Quinneczech Fat! Old! HardCORE! Forum Legend

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    I am sorry, but your posts does not make sense at all... Larzuk will make exactly 1 socket into rare, set or unique item, no more, no less... The rest of ur posts... I just cant decode it :)
     
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    If you do not understand what I mean, then you also excuse me. I meant that the Lazruk does not make holes in unique things, but only in the blanks that we find.
    Of course, if the thing has already been punched, it can not penetrate into sockets any more, just clean it up.

    With Hel and the scroll of the portal and the thing you want to clean, I hope you now understood the meaning.
     
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    zguby The Second Coming Forum Legend

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    i saw h'dins who use enigma, others who use TM. its up to you to test them both and see what feets your character better based on your build. If you need the damage reduction and extra strenght you can go for enigma, if you need the resistance/fhr you can go for TM, also you have an extra slot.
    if you dont need the 70 str from enigma and you dont spend anything more on str, then i would go for a 17+/15+ TM, otherwise enigma
     
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    TM can be ebug'd and zod'ed for over 6k defense whereas you'll be lucky to pull 1200 out of an enigma. So, the lack 8% DR doesn't matter when things can't actually hit you.
     
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    Wait, TM's can be ebugged? Could you show me, I have never seen it before :eek:
     
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    inayat Head Game Master Moderator

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    If they are eth, then yes.
    same way you can bug an eth andy to 4k+ def.
     
  17. Erbhy

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    Thanks, I did not know that at all!:tup:
     
  18. kall

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    What is ebugg and how do i do it Oo ?
     
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    inayat Head Game Master Moderator

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    If the item only has 1 socket like uniques.
    The base stat must have a % enhanced defense, so for example you can not eth bug a shako.
    Since shako doesnt have enhanced defense % as a base stat.
    A TM or Andy face have enhanced defense % as base stat.

    To eth bug such items, you put a pul rune in and then use hel rune and tp scroll to remove the pul rune.
    And you keep repeating this till the defense doesnt go up anymore.
     
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  20. kall

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    This is OP man :D had no id'e !! Thanx for sharing this info
     
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