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  1. Kamesfla

    Kamesfla Active Member

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    I wanna do a Barb vs all with Beast and Grief in Baxe .
    I want to hear some oppinions about gear and inventory at this build.
    Please necessary specifications on sokects , rings amut , weapons 1 and weapons 2 . (After you press "w")
    And skills for this build after You've done max Ww Bo and Axe mastery , remaninig skills . Thanks.
     
  2. Fatty180

    Fatty180 Well-Known Member

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    there are 2 types of barb for BVA
    fast type barb or slow barb which one u want?
    got both of them ready on singleplayer
     
  3. Kamesfla

    Kamesfla Active Member

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    These you know is better
     
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    Light86 Well-Known Member

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    After putting those skills you should max out shout -> much more def in bvb and vs ama's using multishot.
    In bvb/bvama use gf or grief + storm(socketed with eld Rune). Eld gives 7% higher block chance and hence less dex to spec for maxblock (depending on charlevel and rest gear about 10-15 points).
    About those Rings/Amulets slots...
    nobody can tell you really best equip for these. Some ppl here use Angelic Ring + Amu in bvb duels. They give big AR bonus and Amulet will have 75life set bonus.
    Alternatives would be rare/crafted Rings and Amus with stats like: life str dex ar in bvb and fcr mana res when you use telport for the rest (combined with a circlet 20fcr)
    It depends how much you want to invest/which gear you alrdy have...
     
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    Kamesfla Active Member

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    If I don't have crafted rings I should be use 2x Ravens?After remaining skill put in?
     
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    time to tell setup for BVA build FAst Barb type
    weapons: grief+Beast
    helmet: rare diadem 2 barb skills 30frw 20fcr 99 bonus attack rating based on level,10 replenish life,2x sock socketed with Lo cham
    sitiuation diadem 2x bered 2 barb skills 20fcr 30frw 99%attack rating based on char lvl 60 life
    enigma on great hauberk
    highlords
    ring: wisp projector
    ring: 10fcr 120 attack rating 40 life replenish 9 life 90 mana 30 light resist
    boots: upgraded mymidon greaves gore riders
    gloves: trangoul gloves
    inventory barb torch+annihulus ,some 3/20/20 small charms,20life 17mana scs,20life with resistances charm,fhr max damage attack rating sc,
    horadric cube for Buffs like swap 6 bo helm for diadem,use demon limb and 2x sojs warcries amulet for buffing up before pvp starts

    Setup for Bva Slow barb type
    helm: same rare diadem i mentioned on this post
    weapons:grief+beast on bas
    armor: wire fleece enigma
    gloves: trangoul gloves
    ring 1: 9 minium damage 120 attack rating 40life 9 replenish life 90 mana light resistance 30
    ring 2: wisp projector
    amulet: highlords
    boots:gore riders mymidon greaves
    same inventory with small charms etc
     
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    Light86 Well-Known Member

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    After max shout, bo, mastery, ww? I would put points in Leap :D

    Well you must test abit with your barb in public duels. I would use 1 good raven + Angelic Ring and Amulet.
    It really depends how you play and what caps you need to be comfortable with. Some ppl play with 20fcr in bva, some play with 65... You must choose what's the best for you and what you can equip on your barb. It makes little sense imo telling you that the best barb gear will cost 200+Ber Runes. Do you want to invest that?
     
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    Kamesfla Active Member

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    I need just 190 bers .
     
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    well with 190 ber's you can start buying some fcr equipment :D

    If you want to test I can give you some fcr rings. They arent great but some have ar/res/stats. They are good enough for testing build/caps in pvp imo. Just pm me.
    And if you like to play with some fcr you can eventually buy your "dream items" with 190 ber's.
     
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    colder One of the Legends Game Master

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    Hi, on my opinion..
    Barb vs meeles grief Ba or grandfather + storm Bered (75%block) and verdungo
    Barb vs elements (sorc,dru ele,pal,nec), grief Ba+storm umed (75%block ofc), raven , thundergod belt.
     
  11. Light86

    Light86 Well-Known Member

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    But you know that there's a cap of 50%dr in pvp? Storm + 15%dr dungo reaches it makes Ber totally waste...
    Did I miss something here? Plz correct me...

    Now seriously... are you real man? I dont want to flame or something but this is 100% nonsense... You play Grief + Beast since the fanatism pushes a) your dmg on grief and b) your attackrating by at least 5k. How you wanna hit a hammerdin with max holyshield running 25k+def?
    And why do you want 75% block vs casters?! Did you ever play barb in pvp?
     
  12. MMladenov

    MMladenov Well-Known Member

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    Hi, in my opinion BVA barb is really hard-to-control and hard-to-create char.

    The equipment is pretty simple. There are two options - you can teleport on your swap hands (2xHoto and the FCR cap - 105 will be easy to reach) - but it will be difficult to pre-swap when you want to go in (if you learn how to do it quickly - it will be cool and you are stronger +60-80all rez from the hotos), OR you can teleport on your fighting hand (20cast gloves(trang +cold rez)+20cast belt(arach)+ 10cast ring + 13cast amu) - but in this case the amulet will be your hardest thing to find (2barb >13cast rezists)
    Grief Ba+Beast Ba is the normal equip for BVA barb, but in the server Grandfather is improved, so you should check it if it`s worthy.
    If you are not dat rich - you can have 3 cast rings in the stash (one with good fire rez, other with light, ant the third with good cold rez). The second ring can be changed as well for the enemy (raven/dwarf/wisp). Normally, with raven it`s okay - but when trap assas are dealing more than 15k dmg, better use wisp :D .
    For elemental druid - use 2ber`ed CoA (he`s dealing physical dmg so its the best).
    For melee oponents - use stormshield and verdungo. Dmg reduce cap is 50%
    For BVB duel - create second barbiarian, the items there are different (for example - angelics are more useful). And you can go all in Vita for BVA, but for BVB/melee dex for max block will be required.

    But .. the good barbarian must have really good inventory.. And in the server we have double inventory - double trouble. Charms with max dmg/ar/life are really expensive and rare. And.. you should use some poison charms - the good psn charms 313+psn are expensive and rare too. This is the bad part.

    The intresting part begins with the gameplay. In all of the servers i`ve played, i`ve met only 2 players, who could play BVA properly . It is reallly hard to control this char, because you should know everything your champ is capable of. And i dont mean playing hide`n`seek game, locking, lock at name and the things we all know. The key of BVA is LEAP! The good barbarian BVA player must know his leap range (yards) and how to use it. Teleport - leap - leap - teleport - cut`throat - if no success - repeat till the enemy is dead.
    The player who showed me the beauty of this hero was XAH-KPYM ( in English Khan Krum - a bulgarian ruler who defeated the Byzantine army several times and made from the Emperor's skull a drinking cup. ) He was just teleporting at locations near me and leaping, while he was coming closer. But he was old-school player, he knew what he was doing - he knew exactly when his leap was going to interrupt my actions. The skill, leap, itself is really nasty thing - 2 screens away you are pushing back enemies. When they are pushed back - you are in control - you can go closer if you are away or jump at the enemy while he is wondering what`s happening. If he doesn`t run away - easy kill, if he runs - repeat.
    And.. don`t forget the slower you are moving, the more dmg you will be able to deal. You should only walk while fighting, don`t put points in increased speed and even you can do your enigma on heavy armor (for example - full plate mail, loricated mail, shadow plate,hellforge plate and etc.) Another thin Str = More Dmg , but be careful how much you invest there, you should have HP as well.

    It will take a long practice, but be patient - good things are happening slowly.
     
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  13. Light86

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    Yeah really good post with tactics and thx for sharing my opinion about leap. Leap + blindspot teleport will basicly kill every hammer/smiter :)

    Those tactics of switching hoto's... well that required some training and is not a beginner's strategy ;)
    Also I dont really think it's really necessary, just take a look of the fcr frames for barbs. He has the same implemented caps as a sorc, makes him the fastest teleporter in the game. I said before it depends imo on how comfortable you feel to play. Some ppl play with only 20fcr and are good with that. Some ppl want more because they like to tele faster and play more aggressively. It just depends how good you can play your barb with your desired fcr cap and this point makes it totally senseless to discuss the "best barb equip" imo...
    Just play what you are fine with :)
     
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