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How can i find Soj?

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  1. metkam_42

    metkam_42 Active Member

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    Hi.
    i've been playing around two months. i have 93 necro, 91 smiter, 91 java, 89 meteorb here.
    i've collect 4xBer myself, Templers might, rolled lots of skillers. But still no Soj.
    Am i doing something wrong? Any tactics? i tried identify one by one and group identify.
    Today i collect 40x ring and group identified. Results; 18xmanald 9xnagelring 8xraven 5xdwarf.
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    Angeloffaith Grail Done Supporter

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    nm works with mf over 400 for me it dose its how i had 12x in a whole day that was ilvl 57
     
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    V4mpir Well-Known Member

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    really not even 1? i take most soj's from travi hell, but nightmare is better i hear.
     
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    metkam_42 Active Member

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    i knew MF effects drop rate. Does it also effect identify quality?
     
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    Duduloi Well-Known Member

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    from my experience, you need to farm Hell TRAVINCAL. They drop tons of rings, also SOJ. I think you will find one ~250 runs.
     
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    Just to be clear: MF will affect the quality of rings that drop, not how many will drop. Nightmare farming is a better source for SoJ, with half the ring pool to contend with, it's more likely to be a SoJ than an undesirable. With Hell in mind, as others have stated, Travincal and/or Meph Council is also a great place for them.

    I would recommend using the Advanced Item Hunting guide if you would like to see what monsters tend to drop what items. It might help you tailor your MF spots. Cheers.
     
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    Kefflar32 Well-Known Member

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    do nm or hell travi runs for soj
    mf 200-300 is enough
     
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    Zero mf is enough for trav. If you get ring drop its already uniq so mf is useless there.
     
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    ok the problem is MF, but i am still confused.
    100mf = 1soj/100ring drop
    200mf = 2soj/200ring drop
    or
    100mf = 1soj/100ring drop
    200mf = 2soj/100ring drop
    ? i mean quality vs. quantity
     
  10. RandAlThor

    RandAlThor Senior Member

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    2nd options is closer. it would work like this though....(using arbitrary values)

    100mf = 100 rings drop(3 uniques) - maybe soj maybe not, all rings are EQUALLY likely, which is why in Nightmare, which has fewer rings to randomly choose from, SoJ is more likely.
    200mf= 100 rings drop(5 uniques) - the same number of rings will drop regardless of your MF, but now a few more will be unique than before. Same as above, randomly chooses between them.

    So as it was mentioned, if some bosses seemingly only drop uniques for example...then MF isn't needed; it would only increase the chance it will be unique(which it already is).
    For champs/normals/etc then MF will help determine the quality of item drops.
     
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    Tzutzu79 You're too late, Hahaha.. Moderator

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    Do nightmare Andariel over and over...like a machine, lol...It will drop soon
     
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    Fatty180 Well-Known Member

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    best place imo is a nm trav+hell trav or nithalak runs
    i got 2 soj drops under 1 hour of hell trav
     
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    Angeloffaith Grail Done Supporter

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    i do nm travs most i had like 4x sojs in 100 drops took me only 1jour 30mins as i was lagging also

    best is to see what u want and hope you dont find it works when im farm nm i say i better find gores or pefr ww from nm then bam another dang soj i hate when i dont want a soj i get it when i need a soj i dont get it

    RNG is very crazy thought you can go days dry nothing good them bamm a good drop happens
     
  14. Duduloi

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    I do prefer Hell because you can find some cool items except SOJ (like runes). I have one char made for Travincal only and do tons of runs. I found a lot of cool items (including SOJ), and few decent runes (LO, OHM, GUL). Collect gold and gamble rings/amu/circ/coronet, you will find some cool items, too.

    I will try today the NM Trav, just to test Angel's theory.
     
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    to test it can you put in 17hours or 14hours

    also i do id when i have 80x rings in the cube not be4 hand
     
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    why do you identify rings in bulk?
     
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    Duduloi Well-Known Member

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    its about time, I think.
     
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    Angeloffaith Grail Done Supporter

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    im gonna upload my sad video and will post it soon with all resluts out of 100x runs i just did rng as i said can be good at times and dry also


    and its best to id all at the end

    next will be 80 x ilvl 85 hell travs rings also when video is up look throw other videos id done on iding stuff

     
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    ErrorIRL KYSNOW2 Supporter

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    No. Once the item dropped, nothing can change that. If the ring is meant to be soj, will be. There is no such thing with identify.
    If i drop a griffon, no matter who or where i'll unid, the item will be the same(stats)
     
  20. Duduloi

    Duduloi Well-Known Member

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    @metkam_42 , just PM me and I will offer you a free SOJ. Then you will get another one without effort, trust me :)
     
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