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NEW Europe Realm - Players Opinion Needed

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  1. Ezekiel

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    We are planning to open a new realm located in Europe so we will have both EU and US realms.

    We would like to ask our players opinion on how the future realm is going to be: Should be go with a mirror realm of the current one and have a simillar system to the official servers? Meaning same rates, patch but EU and US realm making this possible for people to choose their closest location in order to play OR should we create a totally different realm with different rates and patch such as medianXL mod or other simillar fun modes?


    Post here your suggestion and let other players know about this thread.
     
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  2. Niklaus

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    I think if it's exactly the same people won't really switch over and give up what they have, or wont start up due to the US realm already having a bigger user base.

    I think it'd be cool to make the Europe one kind of a funky-pvp based. Add things like Jewel-words (runewords made with jewels in them) and runewords able to be made in magic/set/unique items, and then add a random +1-max sockets on all uniques and runewords. Greif-DCleaver barb vs a Faith-WF zon? :) sounds like fun PVP to me haha. Also, for christ's sake Teleport in town haha it's an extremely simple thing to do, and it has absolutely zero possible bad side effects.

    Edit: Also a realm like this would be pretty easy to make, while seeming like a huge content update, they're very simple features to change.
     
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  3. theArchitect

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    Before I will give my choice, let me explain the following:

    A realm lives from the players using this realm. Now, if you gonna split it up into US/EU relams you will have the situation, that european players will use the EU realm and US players the US realm owing to the better ping. OR they'd stay on the server, like Niklaus already expounded:
    It would be very helpful to use user-based statistics in this case. As far as I know the maximum player were 214 as shown on the website. But how many players play recently – at least once per week and from which countries do they come from? I’d recommend to make a statistic of your players country-structure and draw your conclusion based on that information.

    • It wouldn’t make much sense to have two servers, when one of them is barely used.
    • It wouldn’t also make much sense to have two servers with not so many players that run quite slow-going what would kill both in the end.


    Even though I haven’t got the information mentioned above, I’d choose your second option:
     
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    nice idea with second realm and for me 2 realms with same xp rate and drop is very bad think , adding a new realm with another mod is very good a mod like median Xl, a pvp mod like niklaus suggestion with a xp rate like 20X (Level 99 from first mob killed) and runewords can be make in unique, magic,rare items who have more the 1 socket (3-6) is very nice but all players from first realm the 10X one will go on Pvp(fun) realm . So from this point is better a realm Like median XL because of Low rates and he is different and is very cool
     
  5. Niklaus

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    I don't think a custom mod like I explained would steer people away from the current server because it'd be a different kind of PvP, and not instant 99 just faster 99, or maybe even the same exact rates with just other changes added in.

    Making a Phoenix shield in a SS and an Enigma in a Arkaine's Valor would massively change the PvP aspect of the game, builds would become increasingly different and it would take a few months of constant patch changes to completely balance it out, but in the end the PvP would be much much different, and even the PvM would be which is why we'd have to beef up monsters so you don't 1-hit-kill everything. I've seen realms similar to this before, and they were extremely successful, the only problem is (like I've explained in another post) that the owner couldn't afford to keep running the realm.

    I don't suggest a Median realm, because there's already 2 Median realms hosted by the same site, that are actually full-time supported by Bro-Laz himself, they would undoubtedly win out against us without question.
     
  6. Gix

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    Not quite.
    Currently we are the biggest or lets say in top3 of most populated worldwide d2 private servers. Our server is on first place on all important d2 top sites and we're also advertising on popular d2 forums. Obviously players can help with advertising too.

    And yes, most servers have this problem: they are not protected against attacks and they cannot afford to keep the realm running.

    We had no problem in doing that for the past 4 years so this isn't an issue at all for us.
    We are also planning to implement some things in order to get some funds for our dedicated server and I would be more than happy if we can get even 50% of it's actual cost. With or w/o this we can afford to keep the realm running for the coming years.
     
  7. Niklaus

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    Oh I'm not saying this realm is inferior at all, I think you all are doing a wonderful job with this realm, but D2Ma****s (the one that hosts 2 Median realms, one of which was custom made by the maker of Median XL specifically for D2M and both of which are supported by him) are vast, and even without advertising. I just think that trying to compete for Median users against a site that's pretty much specifically designed for it, and supported by it's mod maker is a losing battle. I think that this place would be better off with either a different mod, or a completely custom mod.

    Edit: to give you an example they had 696 users log in in the last 24 hours, most ever @ 938.
    The one thing you have that they don't though, is a "vanilla-like" d2 realm. They host ONLY mods, which is why over the year they've had to host MANY different mods because one catches the users interest for a while, and then it falls off so they trash it and host a different one.
     
  8. Gix

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    D2M******s has multiple realms and their total online players on all realms doesn't even beat our 1 (single) realm.
    Not to mention they are older than us and this is the only advantage they got and they're already starting to loose this advantage ; but anyway we're not into competition with anyone.

    We have about 400-600 active users in 24 hours and around 70-100 online all the time and remember we're talking about 1 realm only not multiple realms.


    Also i have given MedianXL as an example only since it's pretty known by most people. I never said it has to be MedianXL

    PS: D2Ma*****s is using the same medianxl from moddb website.

    PPS: Lets avoid naming other private servers here as i don't want to create any backlinks for them * I've edited the server name
     
  9. theArchitect

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    The first question that occured to me here was "will it blend?", okay down to business. Which leads to: Don't breathe this! Ok, enough jokes...
    Are those 400-600 accounts going on and offline and changing mules etc. or are they unique IPs? In fact that's plenty of users, which is positive to me, but why aren't they using this forum here? If you got as many players your server costs would fit $1 each! Is the site not attractive? do they have no keyboard? Hm would be interesting for "Marketing" and "Community" issues.


    Ahm well, Ok, I do understand that you don't want to promote other servers, but I cant see that censorship helps in any way, plus there's some contradiction in it.


    Further you got mixed up, what Niklaus said. He gave his rating about the possible threats of another Median Server, while you compared the existing Realm to the so called maniacs...

    +1 / word!

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  10. Gix

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    theArchitect, no idea if you realize but most players are lazy to visit forums and this is available for any kind of game. When do people visit forums the most? When server is offline or has problems. Why should they visit the forum if the game works fine for them and don't care about anything except it? That's the 'gamer' conception :) Also don't think on all those players as a potential donor of $1. We all know people will donate for some benefits and maybe 1% for the server sake or so. Just to point out that we aren't into a worse case scenario here and we can afford the hosting for years and years. It's just that every dedicated server inside this community is either sponsorized or sustained by donations from the players of that certain game and obviously this would be the best way of dealing with an opened and long-term gameserver.

    The censorship helps in not making a valid backlink for that name. If you don't what backlinks are then you would not understand :)

    And no i have not mixed up things, just read my post better. What i wanted to say is that we can compete with any server on any mod, no matter that community has an all mighty MedianXL, etc.
     
  11. Niklaus

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    Well I wont continue to go into complete detail about everything, but I will say I do agree that this server is a very noteworthy server, and that you have a solid user base behind you. One of the reason I was suggesting a completely custom mod instead of one that's pre-made is flexibility, in multiple ways. As one example, if you see one tiny little feature that you deem unfit or needs a slight tuneup, most pre-made mods don't release their source files and you'd be S.O.L, in addition is bug fixes couldn't be implemented etc.

    I have offered my services at modding the current realm in my GM application, and would gladly extend the offer to making a completely custom patch for your possible Europe server, along with upkeep and all the goodies of you're willing to go that route. I like this place, and I want to see it continue to thrive and if I can help in any way I'd be glad to do so, in addition I like to play variations of the game and thoroughly enjoy modding actually.
     
  12. Gix

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    You can't underestimate someone without knowing them especially since you are quite new here Niklaus. Myself I'm really good on advertising and i got my secrets, but again lets not go into complete details about everything.

    Also i do appreciate people that are trying to help with modding of the current realm or the possible EU one or anything related to the server so thank you for that.
     
  13. Niklaus

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    So I'm off work for a couple weeks, and decided to start making a mod, and if you want to host it on your new realm that'd be cool, if not I'll just make it for fun.
    Edit: I'd also be willing to tinker the current realm's patch with certain changes if you want, in my opinion it's too plain to catch people's eye, needs some other features without making it too over the top. Like maybe making Shenk drop set items, and reworking some of the lower-level unique and items to not be so completely useless.

    So far, these are the features I plan on adding:
    ♦Unique or Rare Weapon + Zod + SOJ = Same weapon on random base weapon.
    Example: Death's Cleaver + Zod + SOJ = POSSIBLY Death's Cleaver War Pike, but also could be on a short sword.
    With this, any weapon's base could be re-rolled unlimited times, but at a very high cost and very high risk. Also, weapons that couldn't be ETH before wouldn't be. Example, Windforce could NEVER be Ethereal no matter what base it rolled on, because you would have to roll it from a bow initially which cannot be ethereal. Also, if you used an ethereal base it would transfer to the new item as ethereal also UNLESS the new item can't be ethereal EG: Bows, Phase Blade.
    ♦10x EXP and Drops (I like that feature you have, makes the game less boring)
    ♦All SET items (not uniques) can spawn with +1-max sockets, and POSSIBLY thinking about making runewords possible in sets
    ♦Same rune cubing as you have, I like that idea too.
    ♦Adding some new uniques I posted in the item suggestion thread, nothing that will imbalance the game or overpower current items.
    ♦Crafted-Blood weapons (can be made on any magical axe) can be rolled as ethereal only if the original item is ethereal when rolled.
    ♦Crafted-Caster weapons can now be rolled on rods, wands, or orbs.
    ♦All Crafted-Safety items "Damage Reduced by (1-4)" Changed to "Damage Reduced by (1-3)%" and Magic Damage Reduced removed.
    ♦Runes removed from upgrading normal to excptional "RARE ONLY", and classic support added.
    Currently classic REALLY needs this as the player count is pretty low, and there's nothing worse than finding 180% ED on a war hammer instead of a battle hammer
    ♦RuneIques - Runeword + Unique hybrids made by cubing the proper unique item with the runes to make certain runewords.
    Example:
    Note: These items can only be made once per item, and cannot be rerolled. Thus if you get a +1 of this with 10% FHR, you're stuck with it.
    Note2: These items can be socketed at Larzuk for 1 socket as they are uniques, with this item I'd suggest a Hel rune.


    I have more cool ideas I can't think of right now, but I have almost all these implemented into a mod testing it right now except for the RuneIques idea, and so far everything is smooth, but like I said I have a bunch of free time so I'm going to keep tinkering and testing, and balancing out things that might not work right.
     
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    So I decided to make all unique items transmutable to re-roll their base-type just for shits and giggles, and while testing in a drop mod I came up with this interesting Fury-werewolf Paladin, wielding Fanat, Holy Shield, and maxed Defiance to increase Holy Shield's defense add. Take a look:

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    He's wearing such beauties as these few examples:

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    Note that Arioc's Needle is usually a COMPLETELY useless 2handed spear, which with this roll is useful in multiple ways, one of which being that it can make POISON DAGGER NECROS actually viable now.

    I also rolled this beautiful piece of sexiness, which would allow you to use a shield while EXPing at baal:

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    And this sweet whirlwind-assy claw, boosting AR and giving multiple elemental damages.

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    Note: The high life and mana on my sorc isn't from unbalanced items, it's from charms I'm using to help me test the mod.
     
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    Gix its not smart to " poke the bear " if u understand what i mean...why compete with someone ho is specialised on median xl? also they pretty much have the creator of the mod as u sayd on their side....so better dont change anyting at all...! Why toy with something wich is perfectly working?
     
  16. Gix

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    I think you missed out the whole point, DevilsPride.
    We're not planning to replace the current realm at all. We are talking about a whole new realm and it's just talking for now which includes suggestions and examples, nothing more.
    Also, the MedianXL was given just as an example and you're wrong if you think that by having the creator on your side no one else can't beat you. It's all about the way you know to manage things, the uptime, etc.

    @ Niklaus, great job on what you did there. We are also planning some changes to the actual realm and make it even more interesting.
    I would like to have you on our teamspeak3 server and discuss about this since most of the staff is spending his time there.
    Download TeamSpeak - Welcome to TeamSpeak. Once downloaded, connect to ts3.voiceground.com. Navigate to Moderated Channels > Moderated Channel 2. The channel password is 2006
     
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    Okay Gix, sounds good. I have lots of ideas as well as lots of D2/D2 modding knowledge.
     
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    Saw you yesterday on ts3 from my tablet but was a bit busy so couldn't contact you.
    Remember to click the Moderated Channel 2 tab above the "enter chat message" to speak on the main channel or double click my name for private message
     
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    This will be great!!
    I am from bulgaria and in US servers have many ping(Lag) but this is one from the top servers in world at ver. 1.13.
    If make Europe Server will be good for players in Europe.
     
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    My opinion is that it is best not to make another realm, just reduce x1 Drop this and did not restart the server. Ping is fine, the important thing is the server is Tuden have hardships like old times. Or if you want another realm, let him be the 1xExperience 1drop% and classic mode.
    This is what the old Diablo player who wants to continue the spirit of the game. Thank you !
    +But the idea of ​​coming realm did not like it's funny. the server is also very good ping 50 is fine, just cut Drop 1% and 1% experience%
     
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