Trade is dead.

Played D2Lod for many years, played Retail.
Came here and some randoms were asking instead of Lem ...Sur for Guillaume s face.
Other randoms asking for 4 bers for a 13 nw because it had big dex (which is completely stupid).
And stories keep on stacking.

The current problem is that I'm not a half-naked noobie who wants to mod the server to get easy items. I happen to have 8 chars completely geared with charms and the rest. So that's outta question.

The problem is that the trade is dead.
Item drops are somehow modded that some stuff just doesn't drop. And when it does, people ask for exuberant prices that no one pays.

Also people demand their own prices to stuff. And lack the capability of OFFERING SOMETHING. They enter and retardedly ask "PRICE?" then leave like bot-monkeys.
On retail with a Gul Rune worth I can dress a smiter which can easily solo ubers. Here i need like 7 high runes to make it look alike.

People here have no clue on prices and the trademarket is dead. Also the endgame gameplay is dead. You refuse to add some customs and reply that people should go for "rares". Such a half-brainer, right?

Some uniques which are practically just bragging items, with no sincere benefit like Myrmidon Greaves Shadowdancers are Ber+sur+add? Reallly? In what parrallel universe does that thing act as even real?

Also the low number of players doesn't diversificate the trade market, forcing you wether to buy at overprice, wether to grind your eyes out for drop. (Remember, botting is bannable, cause you could just donate and ofc get some items so that you brag in a duel server with 'em and cry after gettin' owned by a real player).

We all like this game, we all wanna pvm, pvp, duel and stuff. At least the softcore needs some changes. I suggest adding some NEW custom SETS. This will put our asses to farm again. I can design a specific set for some specific builds as a more witty, one-pieced, artistical variant of the full-rw-unique-rare build. (sets with 5 to 8 components each). And yeah, you can add it to the fancy-donor shop, because once implemented I don't need author rights. I just wanna help with some stuff. [And bringing new sets and a bit of improvement would channel other D2players from other custom servers to here. Which would be good. Cause population can always increase.]

 

I will say from my own experience, that I am very well able to sell anything if I ask for the fair price, with the example of any usefull skiller or item that is in demand (yeah you cant sell shakos...)

In the last week I have sold items worth of 5Bers and none was superior to 1 Ber

You also suggest soemthing about how in retail you could equip urself with a gul, Retail to get a GUL you needed hours and hours, here Ohm is common drop. So yes, prices of demanded items have gone up.

TL;DR
You seem to fail to understand how market works, offer & demand, it is the players that set prices. If I cannot sell an item for 5 Bers I will lower it to 4Ber.
The prices are high because people pay those prices.

PS: about adding new ultra good items;
game is way too easy already, AND, once you get those items, you will have the same problem again and will want even more gozu items?

 

I dont believe that you played retail for years and you arent used to this kind of behaviour of -PRICE? and leave

 

They were so many and I usually made OFFER READ games where the dude came, saw, negociated or offered first. The lack of population means the lack of items which means higher prices. On retail a GUL-like value is touchable. Even gathering free stuffs and you'll sum up one.

The other problem is that there is no fair price. Only the first randoms who said that X item worths Y, and everyone followed up. Trademarket has no life.

 

You've made a bunch of statements but offered no solutions. And by "Bolding" you text it appears that you fully intended your post to be a rant.

I do agree, that the Trade is not as we were accustomed to on the official servers. However we MUST remind ourselves that the server is a "Modded" server which changes all the "Checks and Balances" that a highly qualified team (Blizzard) spent a few years developing.

This server with it's increased Drop and Experience rates was "Modded" to accommodate many of us that have hectic lives. There are several things that I too would like to see changed but overall it is a great place to play.

Regarding the trade prices - well D2 has always been a free market. Willing buyer / Willing seller. Everyone is free to charge what ever price they want. That does not mean they will ever get the price tho.

 

Just for curiosity please tell me what items have you tried to sell and what prices did you ask for.

 

Some snot. Everything works, trade is! Yeah, maybe not the same as we would like. Here's an example:
Last night I spent 12 Ber and Zod on a perfect Griffon.
During the night I found some edges, playing for fun. Slightly sold things a little esteemed forum - in the morning I lay jah 1 and 2 Ber.
This is not fiction, people were trading with me will not lie. Why do I get well?
Yes, sometimes I can `t sell a good thing a week ... but at this time I am changing sea just buy e ...

Fewer complaints - more dedication!

PS I'm sorry for my english - translator....

 

I agree with the fact that the comparison with retail is obsolete. But if you wanna do the things right, you need to aim for the higher level from your domain.
@BIOS -> dude, he just spend a bag of hrs to get a griffon. This is what im talking about. Rather get 3 5/5 facets in a tiara.

Indeed the players are not botters and powerplayers like on retail.

You want the solution? Increase drops for specific so-called rare uniques and increase it severely for sets. Add a few customs to spice up the gameplay. Not imbalanced 25 to all stats boots with cbf, but... some new stuff. I'd gladly help. Most players reach a level and become bored and remain inactive. And with lesser players, lesser farmers. Lesser farmers, lesser items. Lesser items, some baboon asks 12 bers and zod for a griffon in trade. Get my point?

 

perfectly. By your logic, if you fill up the trade Exodus - will be very interesting.
Th there, download the Atma and get everything you want. People are interested in achieving their desired.

Perf items are very rare, and I'm willing to pay a lot for them. In this sense!
What good with 12 edges if they are in stock. Why not spend on a gift for a friend?

Again, I repeat, Fewer complaints - more dedication!

 

edges?

 

I think you are contradicting yourself in some way since if they increase the drops of end-gear items, people will find them/buy them sooner and they will "become bored and remain inactive. And with lesser players, lesser farmers. Lesser farmers, lesser items."

about the increase of set items, Im up for that since the drop is way too low.

 

I find it stupid to argue or bring arguments further. Things which do not move, stand still. So is the economy. No new/multiple items, economy stays still. Economy stays still = dead trademarket. The refreshment of the trademarket can be done with the saturation of runes/items which will vary the price. Or Ladder reset(which doesn't count, due to low pop).
"Gift for a friend" and "I wanna pay for a perfect item a lot" are subjective kindergarden arguments. You can pay Enigma for Shako, but that means that he got lucky, not that Enigma and Shako will ever be equal as prices.
You are free to argue and show low-population typical replies from now on. I have brought into staff attention the thing which I considered as having a negative impact upon the gameplay. They are free to do whatever the decide, but a member of the community has spoken.

 

hope they really change set drops.
i´m fine with having super rare uniques in game, but set drops that are common and necessary on official servers, should drop here more often.

 

I completely agree, but not too much though. Slightly increased chances.

 

yup that´s all i´m asking for, even official b.net drop rates for sets are better

 

simple solution:
drop rates are not the same on this server if you compare it with normal battle.net.
for example everybody has 10 bers. but only 1 guy has a pala comb sk with 30 life.
now these ppl will offer on this sk until nobody is going to pay more. thats how the trading works on this server.
best offer will win.

live with it

 

exp also influence the drops?? thats new for me.