Solved CoH or TM for sorc

Hello, i'd like to ask if TM for sorc is that much of an upgrade after CoH? I understand rest of classes like it better cause the only other alternative is enigma, but sorc doesn't need enigma in the first place and CoH offers pretty good res and 8% reduced damage. So i was thinking what would be better defensive wise considering CoH offer % reduced damage and huge all res, also +2 to all skills make BO stronger than TM.

 

Hello,

If you don't need high resist, Go with enigma instead (45fwr/life per kill is nice/+2sk/teleport/mf) or Tm (fhr/stat/resist/3skill/teleport)

If really lack of all resist ---) coh

 

I am lightning build indeed but what i'm looking for is defensive item build (without it being shop items aka eth perf tm etc). I'm planning to go for 14 ls or more so damage shouldnt be a problem.

 

go with viper. and try reach 200 fcr . it is lovely i can say.

 

Just alternative mind, you can agree or not. My acc name is roland, golprs char now.

Cold orb sorc. No nightwing, no shard. Regular 600 dmg with orb.

Shako ist, coh, oculus!! (Not hoto, have it 40res) spirit 35 monarch, 2 soj, arach, mara 30, war travellers.

Output : 280 mf without charms (gheed), 105 or so fcr (last cold breakpoint), 110 res fire, others like 130. My anni is low, torch also.
im happy with it more than hoto (no mf), it seems like to be with enigma.

As for me - tm has no output on sorc. But! Ive never tried tm's -75all requirements. No mf boost, no dr, cannot be frozen is plus.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 11, 2018, Original Post Date: Nov 11, 2018 ---

Does sorc benefit from life per kill? I thought it melee only.

 

maybe it will be strange
on softcore for pve sorc i prefer enigma + energy shield + all stats energy
with out fhr and resist, it can be work with out charms mp, skillers life etc
yes, sometimes he die, not problem i press exit take the corpse in next game
he fast run walk, have mf, and not have problem with mana

 

I think you guys are missing the point a little bit, i want to play lightning sorc (possibly es) that is relatively tanky and wont actually die that easily, i know i'm a SC pleb but i still don't want my character to die too fast. I was thinking Griff, Hoto, Stormshield, TM, mara, 2x soj, magefist, arachnid, treks and maybe go ES with that setup. Any other item builds that won't sacrifice too much of damage/fcr for tankiness?

 

Yes with enigma, my health pool increase well in high easey density mobs, but if you kill only Boss not really usefull...

 

For tanky build Enigma + Stormshield with max block works great. You don't sacrifice too much damage but its kinda tricky to get 86fhr/117fcr frames.

 

i droped vipermagi setup for the same reasons u say here(i hate dying ez), i use coh for more tanky, but not sure wich is better enigma or coh.. i think both are good , if u dont have resist issues i might say enigma is better (the str it gives will help put more points in vitality for reaching 156 str req for monarchs) also i try to have at least 86% fhr
my setup is echuta, griffons, ss boots, coh ds, maras, arachnid, stone of jordan, bul kathos ring, 35%fcr spirit, frostburn gauntlets

 

i use nigma on mine for the mf and frw rest are max since its eazy to max them

 

Guys thank you for your answers and suggestions, i went with: griff, hoto, spirit, tm, 2x soj, mara, frostburns, arach and ss and went ES build with 12 telekinesis. My damage is a little bit lower than before because of 12 points in telekinesis but i definitely feel tanky now, thanks again for answers.

 

that's a good choice

 

u need 117 cast, and es isnt that great in my experience

 

GUYS HE IS TALKING ABOUT Defensive Armor not a fcr armor ETC

So COH is Better than a Tm due to damage reduction and huge boosts to resistances
I think u will not die with coh setup

 

as you can see he. already made his choice between coh and tm. all im saying is he needs 117 cast for light else its bad heeh

 

I will write a detailed guide on Life after kill (Blood Mage) sorceress. I will make a post in the upcoming week. I would prefer this build over 99% of all other sorceress builds and they show a lot more survivability in the battlefield versus cookie-cutter builds of any previous juncture. Bosses won't phase you either, don't sweat it.