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Guide Rolling charms & high ilvl charms

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  1. North44

    North44 Scumbag

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    Table of content:

    • Introduction
    • Abbreviations
    • Prefixes & Suffixes
    • Obtaining high level charm
    • FAQ
    • Final words


    Introduction
    Hi, my name is North44 (as you well may know). Rolling grand charms was always a trend and with some patience, and a little bit of luck it can be highly rewarding. Over the course of few months as an active gem buyer I received quite a lot of questions on why do I buy gems, how do I roll charms, what's a high level charm and lastly, how to obtain one. So I finally decided to make a ... charming guide.
    NOTE: This guide is devoted to gc rolling only.


    Abbreviations
    SC - small charm
    LC - large charm
    GC - grand charm
    (iLvl) - item level
    SK - skiller
    Res - Resists
    AR - Attack Rating
    Mdmg - Max damage
    MH - MapHack.

    Prefixes & Suffixes
    Below will be listed most common prefixes & suffixes that are considered to be a good mod.

    Prefixes:
    Serpent's +47-52 to Mana (43)
    Serpent's +53-59 to Mana (49)
    Shimmering All Resistances +13-15% (35)
    Fletcher's +1 to Bow & Crossbow Skills (Amazon Only) (50)
    Acrobat's +1 to Passive Skills (Amazon Only) (50)
    Harpoonist's +1 to Javelin & Spear Skills (Amazon Only) (50)
    Burning +1 to Fire Skills (Sorceress Only) (50)
    Sparking +1 to Lightning Skills (Sorceress Only) (50)
    Chilling +1 to Cold Skills (Sorceress Only) (50)
    Hexing +1 to Curses (Necromancer Only) (50)
    Fungal +1 to Poison & Bone Skills (Necro Only) (50)
    Graverobber's +1 to Summoning Skills (Necromancer Only) (50)
    Lion Branded +1 to Combat Skills (Paladin Only) (50)
    Captain's +1 to Offensive Auras (Paladin Only) (50)
    Preserver's +1 to Defensive Auras (Paladin Only) (50)
    Expert's +1 to Combat Skills (Barbarian Only) (50)
    Fanatic +1 to Combat Masteries (Barbarian Only) (50)
    Sounding +1 to Warcries (Barbarian Only) (50)
    Trainer's +1 to Summoning Skills (Druid Only) (50)
    Spiritual +1 to Shapeshifting Skills (Druid Only) (50)
    Natural +1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only) (50)
    Entrapping +1 to Traps (Assassin Only) (50)
    Mentalist's +1 to Shadow Disciplines (Assassin Only) (50)
    Shogukusha's +1 to Martial Arts (Assassin Only) (50)
    Sharp +49-76 to Attack Rating +7-10 Maximum Damage (29)

    Suffixes:
    Balance 12% Faster Hit Recovery (1)
    Inertia 7% Faster Run/Walk (19)
    Dexterity +3-4 to Dexterity (1)
    Dexterity +5-6 to Dexterity (14)
    Life +5-10 to Life (1)
    Life +11-15 to Life (9)
    Life +16-20 to Life (19)
    Sustenance +21-25 to Life (31)
    Sustenance +26-30 to Life (45)
    Sustenance +31-35 to Life (61)
    Vita +36-40 to Life (77)
    Vita +41-45 to Life (91)
    Strength +3-4 to Strength (1)
    Strength +5-6 to Strength (14)


    Obtaining high level charm
    The process of getting high ilvl gc is rather easy, however, like with most items in Diablo, you need some patience and luck on finding them.
    These bosses can drop high ilvl gc - Hell Diablo (94), Hell Nihtalak a.k.a Nickleback (95) and Hell Ball (99). Now instead of dropping a regular magic gc, they will drop you a Gheeds Fortune uniq gc. To avoid this, before you start your gc hunt, you MUST get Gheeds Fortune gc dropped in places like Travincal, Council, Mephisto (these places has the highest probability). Important to note that Gheeds gc can be dropped only once in a game). Once Travincal or someone else drops uniq gc, you're good to go! Please be aware that this does not guarantee any of the bosses to drop the charm, it takes time to find one.
    Note that lvl of item is usually visible using a mh.
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    FAQ
    Q: How do I roll a charm?
    A: You need 3 random perfect gems+1 charm (not uniq) to roll it. Gem prices range from 40-50 Vex.

    Q: What's the point of rolling a high ilvl gc?
    A: As can be seen in suffix table, higher ilvl gc can give you a higher life mod 41-45 which increase average of it.

    Q: What mods should I be looking for?
    A: Most expensive mods are with sk+life, however, all res+life, ar+mdmg+life, life+mana charms are also on high demand.

    Q: How many perfect gems do I need to roll a good sk with life?
    A: Luck plays a huge roll in rolling charms, it can take from 3 gems to 10 000 or more to roll a good charm. It's estimated that the average number of gems needed for 45 lifer are approx 300k.

    Q: Is high level sc or lc worth anything?
    A: No.


    Final words
    In closure I would like to say that buying gems and rolling gc's doesn't always pay off and often requires a huge investment. So unless you have spare 10 Bers to invest, it's better to collect gems on your own. Since more players will be aware on high ilvl gc value and how to obtain it I predict that these gc's will drop in value and will cost around Sur instead of Ber.
    Hopefully that this in-depth thread of gc rolling was helpful. :)

    Regards,
    Mike (North44)
     
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  2. DSync

    DSync Active Member

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    Really good work !! :)
     
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    Never thought about that Gheeds trick before :) Theres always space for something new thanks north
     
  4. yooo

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    Only to add that charms 94,95,99 can roll skillers with 40-45 life, but Ilvl 74+(correct me if i am wrong, dont't remebrer the exact number) charms can have 36-40 life. So we peasants that don't have high Ilvl charm can just roll every GC that drops from hell and hpoe for the best :)
     
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  5. Tzutzu79

    Tzutzu79 You're too late, Hahaha.. Moderator

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    For me personally, the game dropped in Chaos Sanctuary a traps skiller 40 life... So I believe the charm was ilvl 85
     
  6. devilsreject

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    Do you have a screen of it with maphack on ?
     
  7. Tzutzu79

    Tzutzu79 You're too late, Hahaha.. Moderator

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    Hmm, cannot post the picture, I sold that charm few weeks ago for 6 bers...
    Well, you see, the items dropped in Chaos may be ilvl85, or 88, so maybe it was 88, my mistake...
    To be well understood, it dropped in Chaos, 1traps 40life, it hasn't been rolled, it was pure luck, and I was very happy, my first and only life sk in so many years
     
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  8. North44

    North44 Scumbag

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    That was already added in my thread, as well as which ilvl gc can have which mods. Of course rolling anything above 77 ilvl gc is efficient.
     
  9. Joaiuda

    Joaiuda Highlord Cringe Supporter

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    88 = up to 39, 40 (not sure) life
    87 = up to 38
    86 = up to 37
    85 = up to 36
     
  10. inayat

    inayat Head Game Master Moderator

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    Yes ilvl 88 can have 40 hp.
    I have 3x fire 40 ilvl88 charms
     
  11. North44

    North44 Scumbag

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    This is entirely not true. Read my post again please.
     
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    'of vita suffix can spawn on ilvl 77+ GC's. it can roll 36 to 40 hp on charms independently of ilvl. meaning you can roll 40life GC with 78 ilvl or 36l with 99ilvl etc... the hp cap doesnt increase with each level. 'of vita can roll 40->45 hp on 91+ charms, they didnt make a separate suffix for this purpose.
    the chances of a suffix rolling maximum value has nothing to do with ilvl. its totally random. ilvl only affects the posibilitys. with this you can toy around and get better outcomes with usually lowering charm ilvls to get some useless affixes out of buisness. for example if there would be a suffix for giving you 5 potatoes tied to 82 ilvl then it would obviously be better to roll 77->81 gcs instead of 82->88 so you dodge rolling on useless potatoes. This technique can't be used in case of gcs couse life mods are on highest ilvl cap.
     
  13. Joaiuda

    Joaiuda Highlord Cringe Supporter

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    Do you have such charm? If u have - print it. I'd like to see.
     
  14. MadVisions

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    its not an SK, but the 'of vita suffix would be the same in case this would be one. You can see ilvl is 84, still it got highest posible roll on life.
    if you really really really want to see an ilvl77 sk with 40life, i can edit cubemain in patch_d2.mpq and roll one for you in single player then post video of it, but i hope its unecessary after this print screen. @Joaiuda
    [​IMG]
     
  15. Joaiuda

    Joaiuda Highlord Cringe Supporter

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    Yes. Good info. I kinda forgot when i started playing here that i actually rolled 81-83 charm (not sure) into 8 max ~60 ar and ~25 life. This is good. Really appreciate it.
     
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